Everybody in the country has a unique situation and they all should be protected. When she tries to justify her bad actions by "me and mine are safe," it is a selfish willful sin.
Read yesterday that the Parliamentarian threw her "deal" out before the vote. But, she voted AYE anyway. She needs to be primaried right out of office.
Everything about this screams coercion, and even more so if this is true. I don't disagree with you at all, but can't help thinking there is more to this than we may ever know.
Murkowski still appeared discontented with the bill, even after voting to support it, describing the process as "rushed" and under an "artificial timeline".
"I struggled mightily with the impact on the most vulnerable in this country", Murkowski said, adding the process was "probably the most difficult and agonising legislative 24-hour period" of her career.
"My hope is that the House is going to look at this and recognise that we're not there yet," she told reporters just outside the Senate floor, moments after the vote.
Murkowski's support made the final Senate vote tally 50-50, and prompted Vance to step in to cast his tie-breaking vote.
If she genuinely feels this way, then blood is definitely on her hands. Could have been a John McCain but chose to be a Mike Johnson (AKA Trump's johnson).
I posted a TNR article that details what happened. IMO Murkowski is playing the public with her "concerns" and hand wringing. She knew her vote would secure this horrible bill's passage in the Senate. She could have voted NO. She is "hoping" the House sends it back to the Senate. Really? I think both the Senators who voted AYE and the House members who support this bill don't care a hoot about the people they will force off medical care/assistance, SNAP, etc. Power and $$$ and re-election drives them; not decency, compassion or empathy.
Hey, Rebel408. Please see my response to Jonathan and the corresponding links. The Politico article addresses your point. I wrote to Murkowski earlier today, calling on her to seek her better angels. Silly me,
Hey, Jonathan. This was my understanding as well. There are two articles that, in my limited view, seem to contradict one another. Although it may be the timing of the respective publications, or my lack of understanding. And both coming from reliable sources, seems to me:
Murkowski said. “We do not have a perfect bill by any stretch of the imagination. My hope is that the House is going to look at this and recognize that we’re not there yet.”
Murkowski said she’s urged both the White House and top Hill Republicans to send the bill to conference rather than ramming it back through the House this week, and slammed the “artificial” timeline Trump and GOP leaders had set of speeding the bill to his desk by July 4.
“I’ve urged the White House that I think that more process is needed to this bill, because I would like to see a better outcome for people in this country.”
Control of a database of every voter roll crosschecked with Soc Sec, DMV, IRS, and every other database of our personal data which has been rolled into one master index, together with his “denaturalization” of citizens are both VERY REAL. All he has to do is go to swing states and where a few votes would make a difference, denaturalize everyone in that target area to oppress their vote, and he has the key to manipulating any vote he wants to put anyone or anything into his tiny little fists anytime he chooses. Yes, he can now manipulate the vote. I suggest you read the 30Jun25 Tyranny Tracker Day 162 by Olga Lautman on Substack. It’s important reading right up there with Heather Cox Richardson.
I believe that's why he wants to reverse umbrella abortion care procedures. Women dying = less votes.
I'm just waiting to see how he segways rounding up women in general since the right seems hella pissed at them. His base has well-funded trad wife rallies, mags, influencers etc telling women NOT to vote. Others have called for women to be imprisoned just on principle.
It's gotten to us all, and it's also part of their approach, to make us all reactive. It's hard to go against the emotion and stop and take a moment to double-check. BTW I had a number of friends post this on FB so you definitely weren't alone.
If you referring to Trump’s EO to “reform” elections in March, a federal judged blocked parts of it in April.
On Friday, in a second ruling, a federal judge “blocked President Donald Trump’s attempt to overhaul elections, … siding with a group of Democratic state attorneys general who challenged the effort as unconstitutional.”
I read all of that, but when has he abided by a court ruling. I’m not one to panic or spread rumors, but this bill is devastating, and I know there is no bottom.
He doesn’t have to “overhaul” elections. All he needs to do is denaturalize everyone in a selected area as determined by his grand database of our private information and deport them. Voila, votes eliminated. Please actually read Tyranny Tracker 30Jun25
I knew it passed and how horrible it was, but I was floored that Collins voted against it. I guess she was finally persuaded by her 14% approval rating in Maine, and is up for reelection next year,
That's it exactly. These soulless ghouls never leave. Murkowski isn't up until '28 (by that yime nearly 30! years) so I guess she thinks this will blow over by then. Obviously looking like she'll run AGAIN 😕
We need to remember that even if it passes the house that we need to stay engaged. Things are bad but it's important to resist when we can and help where we can.
Jess: here is the thing no one (Dems, or MSM) seem to be talking about: the Medicaid cuts don't go into effect until AFTER THE MIDTERMS. Another Republican ruse and the low information voters are none the wiser..... Ugh.
Emailed my 2 repub senators and dem rep. The Dem gave a wonderful reply but one repub replied only with double-talk form letter about how wonderful it is to hear from constituents and the other did not reply at all. Down with the GOP.
It will be a lot more than 17 million. The hundreds of thousands of people who will lose work due to medicaid cuts will also lose their healthcare. The entire country will be feeling this and reeling from it. This will be an ugly self imposed depression that we havent seen in three generations
How many of us donated, phone banked, knocked on doors and helped to elect candidates for whom we are not direct constituents. We have to make politicians understand that gone are the days when they are elected solely by their direct constituents. I am calling Republican House-members and telling them that if they want to get elected ever again they better start thinking beyond the people who can vote for them, especially if they’re in more economically challenged areas where our donations and our hounding their largest donors will make or break them.
The posting of Senators largest donors was a good move. I know that took work and we need to compile I’d lists for all republicans up for reelection now so we can begin a hard target campaign.
BTW everyone should be boycotting Uber and if you want to know why, watch the truly repugnant interview he gave on Sunday Morning. I love that program and they should be ashamed of themselves. His interview was vile.
Fucking Murkowski folded after getting special provisions just for her state.
And it wont work. One way or another trump will walk the provisions back.
Lol didn't think of that!
She has a responsibility to the entire country.
Everybody in the country has a unique situation and they all should be protected. When she tries to justify her bad actions by "me and mine are safe," it is a selfish willful sin.
Yeah, UNITED States, Lisa.
she got a carve out for Alaskans. What a cheap ploy....
Read yesterday that the Parliamentarian threw her "deal" out before the vote. But, she voted AYE anyway. She needs to be primaried right out of office.
Everything about this screams coercion, and even more so if this is true. I don't disagree with you at all, but can't help thinking there is more to this than we may ever know.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyzzzdj15vo
Copied directly from the linked article:
Murkowski still appeared discontented with the bill, even after voting to support it, describing the process as "rushed" and under an "artificial timeline".
"I struggled mightily with the impact on the most vulnerable in this country", Murkowski said, adding the process was "probably the most difficult and agonising legislative 24-hour period" of her career.
"My hope is that the House is going to look at this and recognise that we're not there yet," she told reporters just outside the Senate floor, moments after the vote.
Murkowski's support made the final Senate vote tally 50-50, and prompted Vance to step in to cast his tie-breaking vote.
If she genuinely feels this way, then blood is definitely on her hands. Could have been a John McCain but chose to be a Mike Johnson (AKA Trump's johnson).
I posted a TNR article that details what happened. IMO Murkowski is playing the public with her "concerns" and hand wringing. She knew her vote would secure this horrible bill's passage in the Senate. She could have voted NO. She is "hoping" the House sends it back to the Senate. Really? I think both the Senators who voted AYE and the House members who support this bill don't care a hoot about the people they will force off medical care/assistance, SNAP, etc. Power and $$$ and re-election drives them; not decency, compassion or empathy.
You make a fair point. The "do as I say, not as I do" bit just doesn't seem like it was gamed out very well. Why? Who knows...
Hey, Rebel408. Please see my response to Jonathan and the corresponding links. The Politico article addresses your point. I wrote to Murkowski earlier today, calling on her to seek her better angels. Silly me,
What?! WOW!!!
Hey, Jonathan. This was my understanding as well. There are two articles that, in my limited view, seem to contradict one another. Although it may be the timing of the respective publications, or my lack of understanding. And both coming from reliable sources, seems to me:
Following are links:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lisa-murkowski-tax-cut-bill_n_68641637e4b0aa65edbb54be
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/29/megabill-byrd-alaska-megabill-parliamentarian-00431730
Murkowski said. “We do not have a perfect bill by any stretch of the imagination. My hope is that the House is going to look at this and recognize that we’re not there yet.”
Murkowski said she’s urged both the White House and top Hill Republicans to send the bill to conference rather than ramming it back through the House this week, and slammed the “artificial” timeline Trump and GOP leaders had set of speeding the bill to his desk by July 4.
“I’ve urged the White House that I think that more process is needed to this bill, because I would like to see a better outcome for people in this country.”
So maybe it's a set up?🤷♀️
https://youtu.be/woICWzKPUs4?si=x8ZlHDqNpUUBoISe
Thank you, Jess Craven, for being relentless in the pursuit of a moral society. Kim McNally
What about the provision that Trump can stop elections? Shocking. Liars and cheats. Today’s GOP.
That was a debunked rumor flying around social media.
Control of a database of every voter roll crosschecked with Soc Sec, DMV, IRS, and every other database of our personal data which has been rolled into one master index, together with his “denaturalization” of citizens are both VERY REAL. All he has to do is go to swing states and where a few votes would make a difference, denaturalize everyone in that target area to oppress their vote, and he has the key to manipulating any vote he wants to put anyone or anything into his tiny little fists anytime he chooses. Yes, he can now manipulate the vote. I suggest you read the 30Jun25 Tyranny Tracker Day 162 by Olga Lautman on Substack. It’s important reading right up there with Heather Cox Richardson.
I believe that's why he wants to reverse umbrella abortion care procedures. Women dying = less votes.
I'm just waiting to see how he segways rounding up women in general since the right seems hella pissed at them. His base has well-funded trad wife rallies, mags, influencers etc telling women NOT to vote. Others have called for women to be imprisoned just on principle.
"We all are going to die."
GOP SENATOR JONI ERNST
"They'll get over it."
GOP SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL
"It's immaterial."
VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE
"I feel great."
GOP SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM
He sure doesn’t care when people die. I think you have it right.
Are you sure? I read it yesterday from what I thought a reputable source. It’s making me nauseous.
Yeah. Snopes debunked it. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-big-beautiful-cancel-elections/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLRTu5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETE1bzZPMVpGMzg0TFBaUjcxAR7FBZfQLcndQj8bhXfjPWp7EUJ8MpYqWny6u4_PynYBhZSLsLMijZSE4oW-zA_aem_sErkmyZwqhB15Wd89NOTwg
I know better. I should have checked Snopes. It’s indicative of how much this evil has gotten to me.
It's gotten to us all, and it's also part of their approach, to make us all reactive. It's hard to go against the emotion and stop and take a moment to double-check. BTW I had a number of friends post this on FB so you definitely weren't alone.
Hard to find this one among the other manure in it. Ain't no pony in this heap of dung, folks
If you referring to Trump’s EO to “reform” elections in March, a federal judged blocked parts of it in April.
On Friday, in a second ruling, a federal judge “blocked President Donald Trump’s attempt to overhaul elections, … siding with a group of Democratic state attorneys general who challenged the effort as unconstitutional.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-elections-executive-order-4f863aaa8e0c59640ebc727827ffc887
I read all of that, but when has he abided by a court ruling. I’m not one to panic or spread rumors, but this bill is devastating, and I know there is no bottom.
He doesn’t have to “overhaul” elections. All he needs to do is denaturalize everyone in a selected area as determined by his grand database of our private information and deport them. Voila, votes eliminated. Please actually read Tyranny Tracker 30Jun25
I have, actually.
"We all are going to die."
GOP SENATOR JONI ERNST
"They'll get over it."
GOP SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL
"It's immaterial."
VICE PRESIDENT JD VANCE
"I feel great."
GOP SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM
ALL COLLABORATORS! NEVER FORGET.
What provision???
I think I read yesterday that this is a rumor that has been debunked. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I knew it passed and how horrible it was, but I was floored that Collins voted against it. I guess she was finally persuaded by her 14% approval rating in Maine, and is up for reelection next year,
That's it exactly. These soulless ghouls never leave. Murkowski isn't up until '28 (by that yime nearly 30! years) so I guess she thinks this will blow over by then. Obviously looking like she'll run AGAIN 😕
This is literally the only time I can remember when I haven't been ashamed to have Tillis as my senator.
I just called and thanked him using Jess's script. After all, he's got more time to serve and we want him to stay on our side of the remaining votes.
We need to remember that even if it passes the house that we need to stay engaged. Things are bad but it's important to resist when we can and help where we can.
Jess: here is the thing no one (Dems, or MSM) seem to be talking about: the Medicaid cuts don't go into effect until AFTER THE MIDTERMS. Another Republican ruse and the low information voters are none the wiser..... Ugh.
Emailed my 2 repub senators and dem rep. The Dem gave a wonderful reply but one repub replied only with double-talk form letter about how wonderful it is to hear from constituents and the other did not reply at all. Down with the GOP.
Here's something we have to keep reminding people when many of these hens come home to roost in 2029, Republicans are responsible, period.
Would Collins have voted no if she knew that Murkowski was going to vote no?
Mostly I can’t believe Collins didn’t cave & fetterman voted with the party.
It will be a lot more than 17 million. The hundreds of thousands of people who will lose work due to medicaid cuts will also lose their healthcare. The entire country will be feeling this and reeling from it. This will be an ugly self imposed depression that we havent seen in three generations
Thanks, again, for all the work you do and info you provide.💙
How many of us donated, phone banked, knocked on doors and helped to elect candidates for whom we are not direct constituents. We have to make politicians understand that gone are the days when they are elected solely by their direct constituents. I am calling Republican House-members and telling them that if they want to get elected ever again they better start thinking beyond the people who can vote for them, especially if they’re in more economically challenged areas where our donations and our hounding their largest donors will make or break them.
The posting of Senators largest donors was a good move. I know that took work and we need to compile I’d lists for all republicans up for reelection now so we can begin a hard target campaign.
BTW everyone should be boycotting Uber and if you want to know why, watch the truly repugnant interview he gave on Sunday Morning. I love that program and they should be ashamed of themselves. His interview was vile.
Called my Rep Mike Thompson and thanked him for opposing, also pointing out the three CA Republicans on your list and urged that he speak with them.
It could have been worse, but it is absolutely, almost unbelievably horrible, as passed.